Saturday, September 22, 2007

Post three

Mohammed was a member of the Quraish tribe. At that time many were "Unbelievers" (and some Christian.) His cousin Waryqah was a known Christian, but somehow caved. She was the one who convinced him, along with his first wife Khadijah, that his first experience of meeting an "angel" wasn't demonic, and that he wasn't demon possessed.
It is obvious that he had extensive exposure to Christians, both in his harping against them and in the use of terms, and in his apologetics. He answers many arguments Christians would give such as dealing with assurance of salvation and forgiveness, Jesus as intercessor, and the sealing of the Holy Spirit. A story is also recorded in Muslim biographies of his visit to a Syrian Christian monk as a child.
A main point here, though is that the tradition of Mohammed bringing the concept of one god to a bunch of idol worshipping tribes is partly hogswallop. From the Apostle Paul on, many Christians went to Arabia to share the good news (gospel/injel.) They also went to India and North Africa. The existence of Jewish and Christian tribes disproves the story.
Even more so, the constant rantings against those who combine other partners with Allah or who believe they have another intercessor (not needing Mohammed to perform that service), disproves the lie as well. Christianity was well established throughout the Middle East and North Africa by the seventh century.
Since the arguments are pervasive, I cannot quote them all. However, let me note you do not argue with a non-existent enemy. Nor do you concentrate on a minor opposition lest you elevate it to a major one.
While many of "the hypocrites" were already living under threats-of having their goods stolen, being killed, or having their wives taken, we can perhaps be merciful in our evaluation of them. They opposed when they could. Having responsibility for others, maybe they could not risk the destruction of others in order to satisfy their own egos. And others, after having "converted," could not live a lie. Before we judge them too harshly, consider these jewels.



S.5:33 only
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite side, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.
(This is listed as 5:36 in my second copy of the Koran. So if you look up a verse and it is the wrong number, just look a few verses up or down.)

Sura 20:71 (Pharaoh) said Do you believe in him before I give you permission? Surely this must be your leader, who has taught you magic! Be sure I will cut off your hands and feet on opposite sides, and you will be crucified on trunks of palm trees....
Pharaoh is talking to the magicians about Moses. Understand that's not in the Bible.

I know of no known proof of crucifixion existing in ancient Egypt. However it appears to me that whenever Mohammed wanted to add credibility to his own personal experience, he used a time worn sales technique-use of an expert, or celebrity. Things he says happened appear to me to be his applying what is happening currectly to the past, so it will make him appear like it is the same for all great prophets.

So Pharaoh had all kinds of things happen that are not included in the earlier documents such as the five books of Moses in the Bible. Personally, I prefer to stick with the ones whose recorded history it is, rather than someone writing millennia later, who says "let me tell you what happened then."
This is especially true when their testimony lists someone present who lived in a different place, hundreds of years later. Haman is listed as assisting Pharaoh. He is the bad guy of the Bibles' book of Esther, who lived in Persia in the city of Susa, around 460 B.C. (S28:6,38, S29:39, and S40:36-37.)
The story of Pharaoh and Moses was recorded in the Torah. According to its introduction to the book of Exodus, the NIV Study Bible lists the date for that at about 1446 B.C., although acknowledges some think it possible to range to the 13th century before Christ (about 1290 B.C.) Either way, that is a huge chunk of time difference, not to mention geographical distance.

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